Modern Talk

Posted by on February 25, 2011 in Giveaway, The Sewing Summit | 84 comments

We use the word “Modern” a lot online to describe our craft.  And the Sewing Summit is being established with the Modern Sewist in mind – so who is this modern sewist?  Erin and I thought we should explore a bit!

Modern...what does it mean to you?

To the left is some of my own creations from the last year.  Some, more modern than others.  Can you pinpoint a deciding factor?  For me it’s all about fabric choices, some fabrics have a modern feel to them while others feel a bit more traditional.  While I lean to modern fabrics sometimes using what I have on hand is necessary, and a fun challenge.

We asked on twitter and in our flickr group – “What does modern mean to you?” – here’s a few of the responses we collected :

Jeni said - ”modern sewing involves using fresh fabrics/colors and new techniques to add a modern twist to traditional designs”

Cheryl pointed us to her thoughts on modern quilting.

I like orange, too said – “I think modern is what’s happening “now” or “what you make of it”. What’s modern today, is definitely not the same as it was 2 years ago. I don’t think you can put a true definition on it, and everyone seems to have their own opinion of it. What ever it is, it draws from traditions and brilliance; and keeps moving forward, nudging us to further our own creative doings.”

asquared(w) said – “I think modern has a lot to do not only with the fabrics, but how you combine them. Using neutrals other than black (like Amish quilts) or white, or mixing different shades of the neutral. How you recreate and update patterns. But really, everything old is new again.”

Fashioned by Meg added – “…I think the crafting community as a whole feels a lot more freedom in exploring different color and style combinations thus allowing for what I think we now call modern quilting.”

Cara broke it down like this -

Modern pattern + modern fabrics = modern quilting
Traditional pattern + modern fabrics = modern quilting
Modern pattern + traditional fabrics ≠ modern quilting

What do you think?  Do you agree with the above statements?  Do you consider yourself a modern sewist?  I consider myself a quilter first, but love to sew dresses for my three girls, and I always seem to need a new bag, made with my most recent love in fabrics.  Even my new book is called Modern Basics, with simple, interesting quilt pattern, yes I am a modern sewist!

Your turn!  We’d love to hear you thoughts – leave a comment with your take on modern and be entered to win this fantastic 1/2 yard bundle of fabric goodness.

Larkspur by Alexander Henry

The giveaway will be open for 1 week – we will announce a winner next Friday, March 4.  One comment per person please.

Good luck and have fun!

Amy & Erin

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  1. I think modern is using traditional quilting techniques in a new/fresh way. I also think that improvisation quilting plays a big part.

  2. I think ‘modern’ reflects today’s world and individual environments and perspectives. I see modern art and craft as merging a contemporary voice with tradition to create something fresh. When speaking in terms of modern I think you also have to acknowledge cultural climates. Sewing/crafting definitely reflects the trends across the world of trying to find a more balanced, sustainable way of life and I believe this to be an important element regarding the modern sewist. The use of contemporary fabrics, color combinations, patterns etc. and the desire/need to recycle and/or upcycle (which often include ‘traditional’ materials) mark the modern sewing culture.

  3. The last thing I would tie a definition of “modern” to are trends in commercial fabric. A lot of the bright, cutesy stuff that is sold as “modern” is neither new nor distinct from decades of fabric design that came before it or will come after it.

    • Thanks for your comment Rossie, but we but we were looking to start a conversation with a variety of opinions. We understand “modern” doens’t mean the same to everyone, (thus the post) and we would love to hear your thoughts instead of just shooting down one opinion.

      • Is offering an opinion that contradicts what someone else says considered “shooting down” an idea? The modern quilting/modern sewing movement will stagnate if (a) everyone is so busy being super-sweet that all controversy is regarded as deviant or (b) consumption practices are allowed to define what once was a handmade movement.

        My own opinions on what defines modern quilting are very much on the record and I welcome any and all comments about my ideas.

        • Rossie, I think all Amy was trying to say is that we wanted this post to be a discussion of the many varying opinions on the definition of modern, and your initial comment offered nothing more than disagreeing with the post (no other opinions linked or stated). It would have been great if you could have given your opinion or linked to your posts initially, not everyone is familiar with your opinion even though it is “on the record” multiple times.
          We obviously welcome differing opinions, as is shown by even posting your comments.

          I am not quite sure why this subject is so hot button – just because someone doesn’t agree with your opinion doesn’t make it any less valid if it’s what you truly believe. Everyone play nice, OK?

  4. Modern sewing to me is making something in an “up to
    date” way. Whether it’s using vibrant and modern fabric or finding new, quicker or better ways to make something, it’s our modern day version.

  5. Modern doesn’t always have to be about what we are sewing but also what we are sewing with. Our machines, our technology allow us as a quilting community to try on different cultures and techniques where as 5 years ago that wouldn’t have been possible.

    Don’t get me wrong the fabric is ROCKING compared to what it used to be and but I think modern fabric has to do with how we can make it on mass and distribute it world wide.

    SO cool to live in this day and time!

  6. To me, “Modern Sewing” has a meaning all it’s own. “Modern” on it’s own has a pretty specific meaning but for fabrics and sewing, I think it means sewing in a new way than was done 20 or more years ago. I think about this a lot because I started sewing 40 years ago and I picked up again about 5 years ago and consider myself a modern sewist. Back in the 80′s and 90′s, I sewed with calico fabrics or cutesy quilt fabrics. I consider those the “old way”. I definitely think it’s tied to fabric design as well as the younger generations sewing again. I could say more but it would be boring… :)

  7. When I think of modern I think of clean lines and a touch of retro.
    I am an heirloom seamstress, I smock and love the entraduex and lace. When it comes to quilting I love a clean line without all the fuss.
    I like what was said about traditional pattern = modern fabric. I think that is how I could best discribe my style.
    This has given me a lot o think about.

  8. Such and hot and touchy subject for so many people. I try and tell people it’s your own opinion that matters. Modern is going to be different for everyone.

    So, what is it to me? When I think of the word Modern, I think of simple, clean and easy. When that translates to quilting I think of simple being a fabric that is easy on my eyes and evokes an emotional response. Clean becomes the pattern in which the fabrics are laid out-to me, negative space allows things to be clean. Finally easy, that becomes construction. taking an old way of doing things and making it easy.

    This again is what I think of when I think of Modern Sewing. It’s not “right” or “wrong” simp,e my opinion!

  9. Modern is whatever you want it to be…to me it’s the use of color and clean lines. But even calico was modern in its time. Thanks for the chance!

  10. Modern to me, means “not traditonal”. Use of color, patterns, texture, shape and your own interpretation and design all figure into what “modern” is and means. It will be different for every individual and for each project you plan and create. I love making children’s clothing with all of the new patterns available, from Euro patterns to small pattern companies and great fabric selections, but I am also starting to dabble in quilting. The thing that draws me into wanting to try my hand at quilting, is the bright fresh colors, designs, and patterns that do not necessarily use the “traditional” quilting blocks of many years ago.

  11. To me, modern means simplified – both in pattern style and fabric selection. Modern quilting has reformed quilting that was once known for complicated busy patterns with many so many colors in them they are overwhelming. The new modern quilting we see now seems to get back to some basic geometric designs that emphasize fresh, bright, colorful fabrics – balanced by the calmness of solids.

    I love that “modern” is currently using a “no rules” philosophy though and encouraging each person to pursue their interpretation of the art!

  12. Modern Quilting is using current colors, motifs, fibers, technology, and patterns to create usable art. I use different colors and motifs than I did ten years ago and look forward to the fibers and technology that will be available 10 years in the future. Craft is not static; it must grow and change as the artist does.

  13. Modern sewing to me means newer fabric designs, new twists on traditional patterns, and unconventional mixing of color and patterns.

    It’s taking the skill set we may have learned from mothers, grandmothers or other experienced teachers and creating our own style.

  14. To me, Modern means using the now fresh materials that look different from the past in whatever pattern you non-pattern you choose.

    It is also about a sort of shift in the quilting world. People are buying more fabric online, a new generation is taking an interest, people are blogging and connecting with people a world away.

    It’s the whole sha-bang…not just one thing.

  15. I think one of the nicest aspects of “modern” sewing is that sewing itself is valued again. I love the modern indie appreciation for homemade and handmade. What a lovely trend away from sameness and mass market.

  16. Oh I adore how many lovely people are coming together to talk about such things. I know that modern is not my mother’s fabric. I guess the easiest way for me to see if something is modern in 2011 is if it has quality fabrics, brighter prints, and feels fresh.

  17. I am just discovering Modern quilting. I was largely exposed to the traditional, heritage blocks, patterns and fabrics – I’m in Windham country, does that explain it? To me Modern is reworking a traditional block with lighter lines. Whether it is a lot of light with color or a mix of color, minimal, or maxi color – the expression of the person putting stitch to fabric. I also light the minimal straight line quilting rather all the motifs, swirls and feathers you see in traditional.

  18. My take on modern sewing is I think you can kinda throw all traditional rules of color & pattern out the window. With modern quilting you can bend & shape your quilt into whatever you imagine. The sky’s the limit :) I also feel that modern sewing/quilting is a form of art. Some quilts take on an almost pictorial or sculptural look.

  19. Modern to me is creating a new take on old patterns and designs with all the wonderful fabric available now! ANd it’s even better now that sewing is fashionable again!

  20. Modern quilts seem to have a very simplified and bold look to them. They also generally seem to be light/open fabrics, none of the heavy dark colors.

  21. Modern fabrics made me the quilter I am today! I feel like a painter when I’m combining fabrics into a quilt. I love how bold colors combine to create beautiful pieces!

  22. Modern, to me, is what you want it to be: Using the same pattern blocks as your Grandmother, only using today’s fresh fabrics and methods; Using colors as only you wish to use them – in whatever ways you wish to use them. Modern is about YOU!

  23. I would think modern would be in the eye of the beholder, but I’m guessing mostly is the wild and crazy colors and designs.

  24. When I think modern, I think… not traditional patterns, liberal use of solids, not small florals, hmmm – not sure what else – I’m still trying to get my head around what modern quilts are like. :) I think it’s different to different people. :)

  25. While modern usually means the complete opposite of traditional; nowadays, most “modern” ideas and styles are spin-offs or remakes of traditional and vintage ideas and styles. Modern is the current style, the new idea, the freshest product.

  26. I am a traditional quilter, but I do like some of the modern fabrics. I think they make quilts zing :-)

  27. Modern quilting means (to me) doing something no one else has done before. It’s the combo of fabric, color, pattern design, and texture of the quilting and/or embellishments to make a quilt that is unique and different… Thanks for the opportunity to enter this giveaway.

  28. I think in modern quilting any body can have his or her own way of creating a block/quilt without sticking to the standard/traditional way.

  29. Modern is a way of looking at things and altering things to suit advances in techniques and technology. What we think is modern now, won’t be thought of like that in a decade. If we are asked to describe something from the 60′s or the 90′s we could give a rough, stylised description that would have everyone nodding their heads in agreement. Tammis Keefe was drawing birds and owls in the 1950′s and while those subjects are popular now, our ‘modern’ designs are noticeably different because of colour choices, fabric type, lines etc.

  30. I find this discussion very interesting. We were just discussing the differences in home decorating with the “country” style. there IS a very distinct difference when you look at pictures from the 1980s country style and current country styles, but sorting out the details that change is quite complicated. The MODERN use of antiques is a funny way to think of it, or maybe it’s not possible, but when you look at quilting there is a modern use of traditional Patterns popping up all the time…….. Very interesting topic.

  31. In addition to the ideas expressed above, I think modern has a “get ‘er done” attitude! Whip something up in days, not years! Everything does not have to be an heirloom.

  32. I think modern quilting is characterized by using the most up-to-date ideas methods. That could be defined by the use of patterns or varieties of fabric.

  33. I think modern quilting involves the evolution of traditional quilting and/or innovation. To me the Gee’s Bend quilts were modern in their time but today similar quilts will still be considered modern so it’s not as simple as saying a modern quilt is new. Maybe it’s the creative process or the intention of the quilter but to me when you see a modern quilt you just know it.
    I am looking forward to the Summit!


  35. I’m not sure how to define modern sewing at all – for me it is probably a moving target. But for sure, the less “fussy” clean look mixing solids with fun prints always strike me as particularly modern. I like the idea of bending old rules and not requiring perfection (I’m not good at rules or perfection!)

  36. I definitely think that modern is about a mindset like others have said, where it is quick and easy. Agree with the remodeling of old patterns, but also I think it is taking a whole new look at quilting. It’s not just about the pattern anymore, now it’s about the colors, and each block doesn’t have to be perfect, the imperfections make it more modern. I think if half of us quilted 100 years ago people would see what we threw together and think it was crazy. Why would you cut up a perfectly good block and then sew it together again? I think modern is a combination of thoughts, colors, fabrics, patterns, and ideas all rolled up into one. If it is traditional then it will include traditional patterns and fabrics.

  37. I totally agree with what Cara said – to me, it’s a lot about the fabric choice and color palettes. I don’t view quilts made with the traditional dusty types of color palettes as modern. I went to a quilt show a few weekends ago where I found nothing like what I find online, though it’s difficult for me to find the words to articular the difference.

  38. To me, Modern Quilting involves creating a quilt using improve techniques to make a statement. Some of my favorite modern quilts only use solids-sometimes only two colors of solids. Modern quilts can be like OpArt or Impressionism. They change something in the process that results in a noticeable difference from a traditional quilt.

  39. I think the word Modern is for every generation, what is modern for one generation may be the old for another… I look at the MODERN fabrics and they look so familar, like a blast from the past.. Is there truly a Modern or is it always a new twist on the old… I love fabrics, Old, New, Modern, Antique, Retro, Futuristic, Vintage… what ever you want to call them as long as I can make something beautiful out of them…

  40. Modern to me is just the moving forward and change of how we do quilting. It is a way to express who we are now!

  41. Modern brings in ideas with a different take. Modern explores, tries new things, fails or succeeds but enjoys the process.

  42. I think of modern as any deviation or improvement upon tradition. After all, how many times will fashions and trends be recycled in my lifetime alone with only little tweaking to call them modern? Although, some fashion items should never be brought back, and yet like determined zombies have risen again… I hope no one every refers to my quilts like that!

  43. So much of modern is really traditional – I think it’s the colours and large prints of the fabrics that make it modern – since the patterns and even some of the fabric designs are so traditional!

  44. I totally agree with what Cara said. I think the modern/fresh fabrics is what defines modern sewing.

  45. Modern is what your parents won’t like.

  46. Well, Larkspur by Alexander Henry is certainly modern! As are all the bold, bright colorful fabrics that can be found these days as compared to the “old” fabrics like Thimbleberries. The same is true of quilt patterns. In my mind there are “old” traditional blocks and then there are the “modern:” creative, awesome, & inspiring quilts made by quilters who love to explore & step outside the box. Thanks for the chance to win a wonderful modern bundle!

  47. To me, modern sewing means that not everything has to be symmetrical. We tend to bend the rules just a little bit.

  48. I love all the modern fabrics about and the fantastic ways of using them! But I still like traditional prints when making dresses for my daughter

  49. I really like Cara’s equations!

  50. My take on “Modern” is individuality, freshness and not just in the way the fabrics are used or which ones are used but in the way it’s put together. Inspiring others to put their own take on something, using a traditional pattern for a quilt, garment or whatever and giving it a twist. Modern is an attitude that’s fresh, appealing and ready to try something in a different way than “usual.”

  51. Modern Sewing?
    To quote Supreme Court Justice, Potter Stewart, “I know it when I see it.”
    I do not think that modern fabric is the make-or-break determinant. Solids or “traditional” fabrics (whatever THAT is) can be used in a very modern way. And ordinary “modern patterns” with modern fabrics can be very dull and uninspired. There seems be a cult-like obsession with a few “name” fabric and pattern designers, following their very every word and new idea… and I’m thinking that being imitative sheep isn’t really the point of “modern”. Putting your own personality, flair, style, and aesthetic into your creations is what makes us “modern,” not just being “fashionable.”

    If we are going to embrace “bend the rules” as a key part of Modern Sewing then let’s not be slavish followers of the “newest” thing… (which will be so dated and out of style in 5 or 10 years!)

  52. I am a beginner quilter. I think Modern quilting is more free, more free in colors ; more free in pattern. But I also love making hexagons, i think that’s not so modern……

  53. Modern in sewing whether in quilting or for the home means freedom of expression more than simple ‘pattern following’.

  54. I agree with what many other people posted. To me, modern quilting is about having the choice to not follow the rules of traditional quilting, and knowing that not everyone may like your choices.

  55. I don’t believe that I have ever used the word Modern to describe any kind of sewing. Maybe because I sew fashion and that comes and goes, and from what I’m reading in the comments it’s the same for quilts (I quilt some when I have time). I’m a Seamstress anything I sew is ‘current fashion’ as a posed to Vintage or Heirloom, but the methods of construction have been used in the past, so it’s all Traditional sewing. Zandra Rohdes was sewing her seams to the outside in the late 60′s, They look like rag quilts to me.

    The word Modern to me evokes thoughts of Steel projects, Futurist shapes and just Modernism in general. I don’t think I have ever looked at a quilt and thought that is ‘Modern’, and I’ve seen many quilts at many tradeshows even a few quilt museums that also had New quilts as well as Heirloom quilts.

    Maybe I guess I just think it’s sad that we need to use the word Modern to attract a younger sewer or a bigger audience.

  56. I think “modern” simply means using existing blocks in a creative way, or experimenting with color in an unexpected way. Folks were doing scrappy strings WAY back so in my mind that doesn’t count, LOL! I do like the use of multiple media (as in art quilts) but I’m also pragmatic enough to think of a quilt first as a blanket so I don’t do a lot of embellishing (so far). Current printing technology does give us access to some very cool fabrics so that counts too!

  57. I think modern is any new twist of a traditional block/pattern. Often it is less fussy. I’m seeing more use of solids, which makes a quilt appear modern to me. Like someone else commented, I know it when I see it, but it’s hard to describe.

  58. I completely agree with all the modern commenters and luv how Cara broke it down :-) Thanks for a chance to win some awesome fabric!

  59. I have been sewing for more than 40 years and quilting for 25+, and I have recently begun to describe myself as a modern quilter with traditional roots. When I started quilting, it was like not coloring outside the lines. You had a pattern, and you chose some fabric, and you put together a quilt pretty much like everyone else’s. Everyone was afraid to do it “wrong”.

    Today, there is such a wonderful freedom of expression. Like a pattern? Use it! Want to combine patterns? Yup, you can do that too. Want to stretch yourself? Absolutely. There is no right or wrong, and the finished products are (mostly) vibrant and exciting, and certainly express the artistry of the sewist, not necessarily of the pattern designer or of the fabric designer.

    Go ahead! Color outside the lines. I’ll be excited to see what you come up with!

  60. I have always thought of “modern” as the decor style. Very simple, clean lines, austere. The modern quilt movement can be that, but I think “modern” is more about what is “now”. And right now the trend is more bright, fun, interesting and updating the “old”. I also think there are less rules about what a quilt should look like. There are more abstract designs, you don’t need to have borders, you can combine all sorts of fabric patterns and colors and it all works! I think we are throwing out all of the rules and creating truly personal works of art. I am loving this “new” movement and has starting me quilting again after 15 years!

  61. I feel like this is that old Supreme Court question where the justice says, “I’ll know it when I see it.” I’ll refrain from mentioning what “it” was, but you get my point. :) I think the definition of “modern” changes with time. Certainly things that were considered modern in the 70s would not be considered so now. I agree with a lot that has been said, but I think Cara explained it best!

  62. I really agree with Cara’s comment–I think her interpretation is pretty accurate coupled with a strong solids movement & interesting usage of color.

  63. Modern seems to be encompassing more and more. I don’t know if there is a said definition to it. I agree with Kelly, you just tend to know it when you see it :)

  64. I think modern is incorporating style, color, and pattern in to a single item.

  65. Sometimes I have a hard time with the word “modern” due to the strong meaning the word hold in the art world. I see many quilts that fit the description of modern art. However, I see others, including my own, that I would describe as contemporary. Quilters are using traditional patterns making them their own with block design, color choice, and fabric designs.

    Modern and contemporary quilters are taking an old craft and finding a place for it today. It fits beautifully into our lives.

  66. I’ve been thinking a lot about this, actually. When I think of traditional sewing, I think of sewing from need and necessity. To me, modern sewing is sewing for fun and fashion. Anymore sewing and handmade seems much more in vogue than it has been for the last 30 years or so. My guess is a lot of this has to do with what I just mentioned, it being a hobby now. Mass produced, ready to wear/buy goods are cheap and so easy to come by, that handmade/sewn items mean more and are worth more. To me “modern” is the modern perception of sewing, or where I hope that perception is moving towards–something cool and hip.

  67. I like what Jeni and Cara said.
    I don’t really think about it when I am working on a project, I just make what I like :)

  68. Modern to me means bright colors, bolder prints and a new twist on tradition. And of course, unique to your personality and style. Or at least to the recipent if you are making a gift.

  69. I agree that modern to me means brighter, fresh colors are used in sewing projects. Also, the cut of fabric that we use is so much different now since many people use precuts. I think the precuts define a lot of the patterns that are evolving today and leading to so much variety in what people are creating. Thanks for the chance to win!

  70. I have seen many of these threads but have never come across a completely satisfactory definition – it makes me think defining “modern quilting” is a mug’s game. I would give $5 to be able to see into the future to find out what our quilting granddaughters think about our “modern” quilts from today. Odds are they will be seeking their own definition of “modern” – I hope they are not saying “not like our grandmothers’ quilts”, but I bet they will be!

  71. I like Cara’s mathematical explanation. Modern fabric is bright, bold, and/or quirky, and that sets the stage for the overall style of the piece. The pattern can also be modern (e. g. the wonky movement), but what really drew me into sewing and quilting was the modern fabric, which works in lots of different settings. It is hard to explain indeed.

  72. I guess I think of modern as being unafraid, uninhibited. Not your old fashioned gingham and floral designed quilts. Stepping out of your comfort zone.

  73. I agree with Cara’s thoughts also. I think modern quilting includes bright colors arranged in a new and up-to-date way….quite different from dull dark colors of yesteryear. Modern patterns include wonkiness…no traditional patterns that I know about contain wonky! It’s as modern and crazy as it gets…and I love it! i love bright colors and the fun new designs that are coming out!

  74. i think it is working with fresh, bright prints. or using fabrics for other things than they’re suppossed to.

  75. To me, modern is “now”. Whether talking fabrics, colors, graphics or methods. For our “now” that usually means simple quilt patterns with clean lines, bold graphics and colors–our “now” is busy lives, hi-def, online, non-stop, a history of antique,vintage, and retro styles to pull from, constant communication with the entire world and its cultures. We interpret our lives into our art/craft. My parents were antique dealers and I’ve seen a lot of vintage and antique quilts, so of which looked very much like current patterns. The only thing different, besides aging, was fabric patterns and colors and mainly handsewing–because they had more time and more limited choices available in a world where someone handwrote letters and never dreamed of something like the internet. One day, hopefully, someone will look at my quilts and say, “look at that vintage quilt, isn’t it cool!”

  76. As a novice quilter I am still trying to figure this one out! I love a simple quality to quilts which I think is modern. I also think fabric choice has a lot to do with the feel of the quilt. Maybe how the quilt makes you feel has something to do with whether it’s modern or not?!

  77. To me Modern Quilting means using fresh, modern fabric or vintage fabric in new, exciting ways. When I think of modern quilting examples I think of Amanda Jean’s Ticker Tape quilt, Ashley’s (FITF) Flying Farfalle quilt, the Wonky Log Cabin blocks and Wonky Sawtooth Stars. I also think of color pop against white background (last year) and against gray or linen (this year). Modern Quilting encompasses so much! But I think there is one thing that ties it together: technology.

    Modern quilting means using Flickr, Blogs, Facebook, Twitter, Etsy, online fabric shopping, etc to enhance the quilting experience. Which means that Modern Quilting = Community.

  78. Modern is simple. Simple lines, stitches and shapes. Bold colour makes it modern.

  79. You’ve had some wonderful and insightful comments about modern quilting. I’ve always been traditional but I’m drawn to the fresh and colorful fabrics I see everywhere. I can envision these new fabrics in my older quilts–and I’d have one version of modern quilting. I would include simple lines, contrast, clear colors, repetition and up-to-date fabrics in any modern quilt.
    I’m making quilts from my old tone on tones in subdued shades so that I can begin to buy modern fabrics for modern quilts. I also like the idea of using today’s new fabrics in liberated patchwork.
    Thanks very much for the opportunity to win modern fabrics.

  80. modern is the new ‘in ‘ word and i think it means thinking outside the box.

  81. Modern is bright bold colors with new color combinations. Straight lines and not a lot of floral or “country” prints. What a fun giveaway! Thanks!


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